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Topic: Some tools I found-- ADD YOUR'S
Posted By: hazmail
Subject: Some tools I found-- ADD YOUR'S
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 7:35pm
I have been looking for pictures of a sander which I promiced to post for someone when we were at Borumba Dam a few weeks back--- searched and searched my picture files, after a week of scratching my head I finally found IT and a few other tools I have had to make over the years, please see all below and hope you can use some:
A set of jaws for holding a beveled lure etc in a vice/ clamp:
Use two pieces of Al angle and a piece (or two) of round steel rod, works well.
 
Pete
 



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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 7:43pm
To find the centre of a round (or square) piece of timber:
 
 
Pete


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 7:48pm
To scribe a centre line on an even- tapered (or straight) piece of timber, make one of these out of some Aluminum 'U" chanell , a rivet with a sharpened spike through it--you must have near perfect centre---scribe away.
Pete
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Posted By: horrorhead
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 7:57pm
Did you think these up yourself Pete? They are so innovative - cool solutions. Thumbs Up Martin

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Martin-

you don't havta be pretty to fish


Posted By: OCD
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 7:58pm
Very clever Pete. I especially like the little jig for marking centre lines, can see myself making one of these.

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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 8:23pm
An 'Aussie Weel' as opposed to the older and much more usefull 'English Wheel'
This is just a sander, to sand around compound, convex, flat and concave curves.
I used an old evaporative cooler motor slow/ 4 speed, dust proof with a shaft on either end for seperate wheels
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Fix a roughly round piece of 'custom wood',( which should be slightly wider than your lure width) onto a pully wheel (or collar) and  fit it to your motor shaft, get or make a wood turning tool (old file will do) and turn the the wood slab round with a 'square edge--now get/ make another 'half round' tool which is the same diameter as your lure width and turn a half round groove into the edge of the sanding wheel -----------THEN
 
 
 
 
 
 
Pete


Posted By: puglee62
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 8:24pm
what great ideas,I think i'll make up one of those centreline jigs too. your a clever bugger PeteThumbs UpBig smile


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 8:28pm
FLAT bending Polycarbonate sheet ('Lexan').
Pinch your wife/ daughter's 'hair straightner',---needs to have variable heat settings up to about 165C--
Heat her up and bend away,,, don't get caught though.
 
Pete


Posted By: flyonline
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by hazmail hazmail wrote:

FLAT bending Polycarbonate sheet ('Lexan').
Pinch your wife/ daughter's 'hair straightner',---needs to have variable heat settings up to about 165C--
Heat her up and bend away,,, don't get caught though.

 
Pete


Dang straight! I get into enough trouble if I 'borrow' the hairdryer Cry

Thinking I might have to knock up one of those middle scribers too Thumbs Up

Thanks for some great ideas.

Steve


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 8:41pm
Poor mans wire former for twisted through wires--- you have to make a wooden jig with pins in it to set the wire bends - once you have the size of your wire 'harness' or hanger jig,, this doo dah makes a barrell twist which does not shorten the wire like a 'haywire twist'.
 
Pete
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Nicho
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 8:43pm
Cheers Pete, Im now totally confused!, but can see where your coming from, you never cease to amaze meClap
Jas


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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 8:57pm
Phew,me too Jas-- I finally remembered (lost my 'Favourites) where I had all my pictures stored, all 16 pages of them.
Pete


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 8:59pm
Originally posted by horrorhead horrorhead wrote:

Did you think these up yourself Pete? They are so innovative - cool solutions. Thumbs Up Martin
Yes Martin, all those fat, hairy little hands are mine LOL  LOL.
Pete


Posted By: horrorhead
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 9:11pm
Well you mind definetly is not little, fat or hairy to think up these gadgets. LOL M artin

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Martin-

you don't havta be pretty to fish


Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 9:26pm
Some nice ideas there Hazmail. Like the line scribe tool and center finder, built mine out of wood but your idea looks sweet. Thanks for posting this up.

Tincan


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Posted By: p.j.
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 12:30am

What great ideas. I will make some of these in one way very simple, and very clever ideas, so thy are in hand when needed. Thanks very much fore sharing ClapClapClapClapClap



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Posted By: RAVA
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 4:37am
Wow Pete there are some great and very clever Thumbs Up items mate, love the jig for finding the center of round wood so simple, thanks heaps for posting ClapClapClapClapClapClapClap

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Cheers Gary


Posted By: CircleVbaits
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 5:52am
Ingenius ideals Pete, I envy you.DeadDeadDeadDeadDead

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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 6:22am
Happy to share them, most of these came out of the days when everything was 'top secret' and no one shared anything - Around the country  there is probably a hundred versions of  'centre finder's' etc  - I know I have about 4-5 different bib alighners, and still none of them are as good as my old eyes.
I still have a few more gadgets in the 'tools' album but I ran out of time last night, bed was calling.
Pete


Posted By: Nicho
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 11:02am
Your willingness to share the TOP SECRET stuff is very much appreciated pete, your guidance and advice has saved me a lot of heartache...........its still ached a hell of a lot!!! but not as much as it would of without your encouragement.
cheers Jas


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Nichos Maulers Homemade timber lures....THEY CATCH FISH!

YA DONT KNOW...IF YA DONT GO...SO GET OUT THERE AND... FISH IT


Posted By: Mcleod
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 11:45am
Pete, your on fire. If anyone could come up with those, you are definately the man.
 
Thanks for sharing
 
Angus


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 7:36pm
Thanks everyone, as I said happy to share when I can find them, most of this stuff I posted elsewhere a few years back -
 Jas /Angus, not on fire, I just got my memory back  60
I'll see what else I can find in 'The Album' and post it.
Pete


Posted By: bilge
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 7:39pm
Peter great stuff, just been talking to Jas and he alerted me to this post ClapClapClap
Billj


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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 8:42pm
Bib aligner/ checker-
Hang or stand your lure vertical (90 degrees) to bench and shoot a line down the lure and bib with a cheap laser line marker ($6 at the dollar shop)-- works best before you top coat, as you can see the laser flares off the glossy coating,,, and bib.
 
 


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 8:58pm
Eye Placement Jig.
You may have to make 2 jigs  if eyes are above or below the bib slot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!one each for left and right eye, just bend to suit - otherwise it's pretty straight forward.
 
 
 
**** OR--- make one of these and do both sides with the same tool, just bend to suit your eye preferences.
Pete
 


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 9:02pm
For the 'Dippers' out there, a no blobs on the hook hanger gizmo:
 


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 9:15pm
Rattling Eyes.
 
This one is not my idea, a guy in Darwin "Balls" (can't remember his name) sent me some pictures a few years back and I added the text and posted it for him. Nice lures and a simple rattle /eyes combo.
 
 
 
 
Use a wad punch to punch out desired colour and stick your eyes to it- the steel ball rettles back and forth  between the two eyes - Yep!!! they do make a racket, works well.
 
Pete


Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 9:34pm
hazmail brilliant idea for the eye jig that will save me a lot of measuring , all brilliant stuff.

Tincan


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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 9:39pm
Air brush stand:
Get a tapered nozzle off a small glue/silicone tube, drill a hole and jam it in , then fill with metho or thinners, insert the brush tip- the metho/ thinners stops paint from drying in the tip on hot day between colours etc.
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Darby
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 9:55pm
Pete neat ideas.. all of them.....
What do you use the VB for to get the can for discs..I hear it makes good drain cleaner Wink
I do like BUNDY BEAR eye...might use that Thumbs Up



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Posted By: Nicho
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 10:08pm
ever thought of a small how to book pete?
no doubt a bout ya.


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YA DONT KNOW...IF YA DONT GO...SO GET OUT THERE AND... FISH IT


Posted By: flyonline
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 7:24am
Originally posted by hazmail hazmail wrote:

Air brush stand:
Get a tapered nozzle off a small glue/silicone tube, drill a hole and jam it in , then fill with metho or thinners, insert the brush tip- the metho/ thinners stops paint from drying in the tip on hot day between colours etc.
 
 
 


Is that the Tamiya acrylic or enamel in the background? I've been using the acrylics so far, but if you're using the enamels I might have to give them another shot.

Cheers

Steve


Posted By: Mcleod
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 11:14am
Pete, your still on fire.
 
Angus


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 11:52am
Jas--Yeah, I reckon someone is probably already snitching them, they might have to take some more pictures though, they are copyrighted.
 
Yes Steve, but that picture is probably 3-4 years old, don't use it much these days, too expensive and epoxy doesn't like it for some reason.
Pete


Posted By: BlueyNT
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 6:45pm
I've been using sign writers vinyl in various colours to make stick on eyes ,I just cut the discs with wad punches .Larger disc for the eye and smaller different colour for the pupil.
You can get very small wad punch sets  from craft shops.

My lure making has been very slow of late , other projects have jumped the queue.


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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 7:55pm
Bluey, were you 'Balls ' in another life?? LOL On second thoughts I think 'Balls' lived in Darwin somewhere, I have not heard from him since I posted his rattle idea for him a few years back-- I have some of his lures,-- nice.
Pete


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 8:09pm
Bubble Float Lures
I may have posted these before??
I made these out of bubble floats a couple of years back- I thought they would be just right for Bream, got heaps of hits on them but they seemed to be too fat for a Bream's mouth-- they would certainly work on Jacks.
What I like about these is you can add or subtract water to set your depth (same as the float) and they cast a mile-- Once you get set up, easy to make too.
 
The newer versions with the tapered centre plug, inserted from the rear are best.
Pete
 
 
 


Posted By: fletch
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 8:31pm
awesome stuff keep them coming really like reading these things .....prob is, i bought my airbrush stands but will be making that one with the thinners in it and tackle a few others there ........ brad thats melbourne bitter mate not VB ... that beer goes alright before a bottle or 2 of scotch ..........cheers aaron


Posted By: fletch
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 8:34pm
how cool are those floats ....awesome .... might have to make a few up and and try them out and if i cant get them to work , i could just put them on the XMAS tree ......very cool ......cheers aaron


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 8:59pm
Thanks Aaron, I saw that too- I have tried all sorts of trendy beers, but I keep coming back to Melbourne Bitter,( NEVER VB)- -------------------Except when in U.K,Sweden/ Denmark, I could not believe how good their beer is ---AND I'm not really abeer drinker!!
You will need to stick some weight in those floats, I used some 'shot' out of shotgun shells.
Pete


Posted By: ando 1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:29pm
Great ideas Pete
Thanks for sharing. Have always been unsure about my bib allignment, the laser would take the guesswork out of it will hunt one down on the weekend.
love the bubble float lure idea ,agree with Aaron on the xmas tree ornaments even the kids would like that
cheers nathan 


Posted By: Nicho
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 8:56am
mmm bassnbubble floatsThumbs Up.........they are cool.

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Nichos Maulers Homemade timber lures....THEY CATCH FISH!

YA DONT KNOW...IF YA DONT GO...SO GET OUT THERE AND... FISH IT


Posted By: BlueyNT
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 10:40am
Hazmail ,
No "balls' is not me .
 
Kev 


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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by BlueyNT BlueyNT wrote:

I've been using sign writers vinyl in various colours to make stick on eyes ,I just cut the discs with wad punches .Larger disc for the eye and smaller different colour for the pupil.
You can get very small wad punch sets  from craft shops.

My lure making has been very slow of late , other projects have jumped the queue.
 
Bluey- I was looking for my small wad punches yesterday to make a gasket for my air brush--didn't find them, must be lost in all the rubble here- had to make do with a paper punch.
Pete


Posted By: horrorhead
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 8:07pm
Cool bubbles, would work well on bass and yellas, what a great idea. Martin

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Martin-

you don't havta be pretty to fish


Posted By: puglee62
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 3:57pm
in the dark recesses of my workshop buried under the red cedar dus t i found this old bib press that i made for punching out my old ''Dr Strange'' bibs,it started life as a cast metal black and decker drill press.unfortunately the the handle snapped off it and it has now ceased up from lack of useLOL
 


Posted By: Jeff
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 4:15pm
I love this stuff ,, so much that you wouldnt have thought of yourself ,, keep it coming  guys  .Big smile

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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 7:53pm
[QUOTE=puglee62]in the dark recesses of my workshop buried under the red cedar dus t i found this old bib press that i made for punching out my old ''Dr Strange'' bibs,it started life as a cast metal black and decker drill press.unfortunately the the handle snapped off it and it has now ceased up from lack of useLOL
 
 
AHHHH chris, finally someone has posted one of their treasures (secret treasures)-- Iv'e seen a few lip presses (on this forum and others) and they are all the same principle even though we all are beavering away in isolation - Eric Moller has one on the 'meet the makers' thread and it is pretty much the same principle as yours/ mine but it's probably 50 years old.
Great to see I was on the right track 25 years back, I did not get past a round bib though - the old B&D drill press, I eyed them many a time but never had the cash, way back then I also looked at wine cork presses and beer cap presses - If only Eric you and I (and probably a heap of others ) had got together we would be 10 machines down the track by now.
Here's mine, (with some plans) punch is made out of a truck shock absorber shaft, then I got a backyard engineer to 'turn me the die, worked well, I used to cut 20mm Al, brass and Polycarbonate bibs with it-- I still punch a few for 'Nicho' because he's into "Retro" stuff  LOL LOL---how times have changed !!!!!.
Thanks Chris for posting yours.
Pete
Sorry Tony for all the pictures but I thought maybe someone may want to make one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the old lure I used them on (50mm).
 
Punch
 
 
Die, what the punch fit's into.
 
Punch and die together with a sheet of Al ready to punch
Punch and die with slot in side for sheet
 
 
Then a mate welded up a handle so I would not have to use a hammer--get set up and you could probably knock out 100 in half an hour--eats polycarbonate.
 
Here's a drawing:
 
To punch that small hole for the tow wire to go through the bib I used/use a cheap 2 pin paper punch.
Pete


Posted By: amdoubleu
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 9:11pm
This is looking like those old Popular Mechanics mag's I used to love reading. Good stuff Pete.
Regards,
Alan


Posted By: Screamingreel
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 7:43am
Some great gems recorded here, cannot say that I have seen many "out there" ideas in the mags. but if i come across anything will post under Pete's very informative post.
Thanks for sharing.
 
regards John


Posted By: flyonline
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 2:33pm
I got tired of my bib templates moving when tracing them onto the polycarb, so took a couple of rare earth magnets, a nail and voila:





I will cut the head of the nail off and glue it on permanently, but a steel template would work even better. These RE magnets are damn strong, so they hold it on strongly. These were what I had on hand (they hold the wings on some of my RC planes on), but a square or round flat one would work even better.

Just slide the whole thing along and it pivots easily into a new space. No clips, clamps or tape and only needs one finger to stop it from spinning if you push too hard.

I get my magnets from http://www.frenergy.com.au/" rel="nofollow - http://www.frenergy.com.au/ really great service, pretty good price and they're local.

Steve





Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 7:43pm
Nice one Steve, I'm a fan of these magnets too, I have used them  'extensively' in the van to keep drawers closed, bed legs up and down etc--the thing I don't like is when they are 'mating' in the magnet drawer, you need a referee to separate them.
Thanks for posting.
pete


Posted By: puglee62
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 9:32pm
thats a good idea Steve,i have a lot of problems with my big bib templates moving and that should solve my problemThumbs Up


Posted By: puglee62
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 9:45pm
that bib press of yours is a ripper Pete,i like the round bibs and they work well its a pity there arent more lures out there with them.you would've liked the motorized brake presses that I used to work on mate,they'd press thousands out in an hour, i have often though of buying a small one and setting it up in my shed with a die that did half a dozen different sized bibs at once.


Posted By: Nicho
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 10:30am
Eyes off that little ali bib press boys..I topped pete up with 6 too many red wines one night at borumba and he promised it to me any time , LEAThumbs UpVING IT TO ME IN HIS WILL!!!........its all mine!!!!!!!!!!!......Remember that pete?
YOU PROMISED........Honest you did!!!


LOL





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Nichos Maulers Homemade timber lures....THEY CATCH FISH!

YA DONT KNOW...IF YA DONT GO...SO GET OUT THERE AND... FISH IT


Posted By: Screamingreel
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 11:19am
Acquired this around 12 years ago been resting, and accumulating a lot of dust , belt may now be suspect.
At the time I was told it was a  Lapidary  Machine
I bought it   for some type of fishing application, yet decided.
 
Some of  the machine Guru on the site maybe able to work out a suitable application
Some photos follow.
 
regards John


Posted By: CircleVbaits
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 11:48am
Originally posted by puglee62 puglee62 wrote:

that bib press of yours is a ripper Pete,i like the round bibs and they work well its a pity there arent more lures out there with them.you would've liked the motorized brake presses that I used to work on mate,they'd press thousands out in an hour, i have often though of buying a small one and setting it up in my shed with a die that did half a dozen different sized bibs at once.
 
 
Hey Chris, I worked on small brake presses also when I first started at Chrysler. It was agood job. You could press out enough bibs in one day to do you a life time with one of those.
Verlon


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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 1:31pm
John- Looks like that is a saw to cut stones, add a fine timber blade and you have a saw for wire slots and/ or  bib slots - It's pretty heavy duty! the rusted bed sort of indicates wet cutting, which is what they do gem stones with. I have something similar but its made from modern day aluminum, no rust LOL
I have often looked at those cheap, wet tile cutting saws at Bunnings, thinking they would make a good mini saw.
Thanks for posting John, good find.
Pete


Posted By: puglee62
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 3:56pm
Originally posted by CircleVbaits CircleVbaits wrote:

Originally posted by puglee62 puglee62 wrote:

that bib press of yours is a ripper Pete,i like the round bibs and they work well its a pity there arent more lures out there with them.you would've liked the motorized brake presses that I used to work on mate,they'd press thousands out in an hour, i have often though of buying a small one and setting it up in my shed with a die that did half a dozen different sized bibs at once.
 
 
Hey Chris, I worked on small brake presses also when I first started at Chrysler. It was agood job. You could press out enough bibs in one day to do you a life time with one of those.
Verlon
Thats them Verlon,you can pick up the small ones here at machinery auctions occasionaly for less than a thousand dollars its just a case of changing the 3phase motors over for single phase ones
then.the dies are a different matter though,you'd pay anything from $500 to $2000 for the die
 
that lapidary saw looks interesting John as Pete said it'd make a good bib slot saw


Posted By: Screamingreel
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 5:09pm
Thanks ,I will place a couple of pictures from underneath the cutting end when the sun returns.
 
regards John


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 8:06pm
 

Here's a handy little gague:

 
 
Called a 'Sewing and Knitting Gague' , it's thinner then 'Vernier calipers” but not as accurate, but because it's so thin it's good for measuring bib slot depth, wire slots etc- you can buy them here –


http://sewing-online.com.au/haberdashery/hand_sewing/sewing_aids/Sewing_and_Knitting_Gauge/" rel="nofollow - http://sewing-online.com.au/haberdashery/hand_sewing/sewing_aids/Sewing_and_Knitting_Gauge/


I bought mine off an 'Amish' lady on a farm in Missouri (another story) @ about triple what this local site is selling them for.

Has a sliding stop, so if you are like me you don't have to remember the measurement.

 

Pete



Posted By: Nicho
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 10:15pm
another good idea, didnt know there were so many things out there to help!!
 cheers pete, great thread, and good to see yourself and  others willing to show us beginners a few things to help us stumble through the learning process......
An Amish ladyHeart and a story to go with it hey!!Wink
Jas


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Nichos Maulers Homemade timber lures....THEY CATCH FISH!

YA DONT KNOW...IF YA DONT GO...SO GET OUT THERE AND... FISH IT


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 5:57am
Thanks Jas -it was just something I came across in a quilting shop, we have to search out all avenues LOL!!!.
 I just checked out the stats, 702 looks for about 4 other (generous) contributers, could be why we are still in the dark ages of lure making here LOL.
 
I'm going fishing @ Mallacoota for a week before the Christmas hordes turn up, wish me luck, I'll need it.
Pete


Posted By: Nicho
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 9:58am
MALLACOOTA!!! BIG BREAM....GOOD LUCK

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Nichos Maulers Homemade timber lures....THEY CATCH FISH!

YA DONT KNOW...IF YA DONT GO...SO GET OUT THERE AND... FISH IT


Posted By: flyonline
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 10:05am
Pete

are the edges of the die or the punch sharp and what kind of pressure do you need to exert? Might see if i can heath robinson something up using my champagne/beer capper.

Steve


Posted By: toadfrog
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 3:45pm
You really ought to do a book . Bet you could sell it on Ebay . I come up with wacky stuff . But you come up with smart logical stuff.

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Posted By: Seaweed
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 9:29am
Pete, just found this thread some great stuff on here.
The 'Balls' you refer to is a chap named Wayne Baldwin, he made lures from timber with stick on halographic eyes and they were originally called 'Two Dogs', (probably after that old Red Indian joke years back). Then I think he changed them to 'Scurvy Dogs'?, or so a bloke told me recently, this chap has a few. I purchased a few from one of Wayne's mates in the early 90's. Don't know if he still makes, but he's still in Darwin, as his name was in a recent newspaper fishing report. I remember him from my days with the Darwin Game Club, maybe you can make contact through them, I'm no longer a member. Someone told me he now works at N.T. Fisheries.
Regards, Tony.


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Posted By: BlueyNT
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 11:40am
Originally posted by Capt.Seaweed Capt.Seaweed wrote:

Pete, just found this thread some great stuff on here.
The 'Balls' you refer to is a chap named Wayne Baldwin, he made lures from timber with stick on halographic eyes and they were originally called 'Two Dogs', (probably after that old Red Indian joke years back). Then I think he changed them to 'Scurvy Dogs'?, or so a bloke told me recently, this chap has a few. I purchased a few from one of Wayne's mates in the early 90's. Don't know if he still makes, but he's still in Darwin, as his name was in a recent newspaper fishing report. I remember him from my days with the Darwin Game Club, maybe you can make contact through them, I'm no longer a member. Someone told me he now works at N.T. Fisheries.
Regards, Tony.
 
Put a call out on this forum , If he is fishing and in Darwin , he'll be a member of this forum for certain. Or some one will know him and how to get in touch .
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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by flyonline flyonline wrote:

Pete

are the edges of the die or the punch sharp and what kind of pressure do you need to exert? Might see if i can heath robinson something up using my champagne/beer capper.

Steve
 
Steve- sorry for the delay, I have been away for a while.
The face of the punch normally is just ground @ 90 deg to the side if you can call that sharp--it acts much like a guilotine in that the force applied and the close tollerances between the punch and the die just sheers the metal / plastic or whatever to the shape of the punch, in my case I just ground the angles / facets I wanted impressed in the bib, so first it bends the sheeto this shape, then cuts the outline, in my punch it's round, in more advanced ones like Puglees its an actual 'bib' shape.
Really not much force involved, but this would depend on the size of the bib (diameter+ thickness  = Kg' / sq Cm  etc)-- the one pictured is only a 20mm x 1mm thick disc so you can press them with one arm (with a hand lever of about 50Cm).
 
Hope this helps.
Pete


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 9:11pm
Originally posted by Nicho Nicho wrote:

MALLACOOTA!!! BIG BREAM....GOOD LUCK
 
Jas- my mate caught a few of these, this one was about 40cm, I got a 44cm but I hate posing with fish-- other than that it was s--t weather and pretty poor fishing (as usual for me)    LOL.
Pete


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 9:17pm
Thanks Tony  / Bluey for the info, no one can hide these days  LOL.. I suppose I was just wondering out aloud where he had gone as I had not seen him on any of the forums for a year or two----Your discriptions sound like him, he was into game fishing---He also seemed like a guy who was more into fishing than talking about it.
Thanks again.
Pete


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 9:09pm
For the "Popper" guys (also jerk baits/ gliders).
A lot of guys would probably know this but some may not.!!!!
Again, not my idea,  I think it was posted three or four years back by a very clever guy from U.S named 'Husky' - an amazingly simple (for me anyway) solution for drilling a paralell (or off centre ) wire hole through a blank.
It's just a vertical version of a lathe 'dead centre' ---BUT you will need drill press to do it------
 
 
First get a  square plank of wood and a nail about the same diameter as the hole you want- Sharpen the nail to a point , drill a tight hole (with drill press so it's square) in the plank of wood and drive the nail through it:
 
Get your popper blank and the centre finder you made (see previous post) and mark the centres on both ends, OR mark it "off centre" if you wish.
 
 
Put the plank with the nail in it upright on the bed, and with the size drill bit you need to use fixed in the chuck (drill bit as long a possible), lower and centre the tip of the drill to the exact point of the nail, now clamp the plank to the drill bed so it can't move:
 
 
Place your bottom mark of the blank on the nail tip:
 
 
Start the drill and while holding the blank, lower the bit to your top centre mark and slowly drill your hole--
 
If the bit is not long enough turn the blank around and drill it from that end too, you will find the holes meet up exactly--If you want one end to be 'off-centre', just make a mark where you want the hole to exit, stand it on the nail tip and drill away.
 
Pete
 
 


Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 9:51pm
Hazmail it also depends on the type of drill press you own, for me I do it on a lathe but for those who do not own a lathe and have a bench drill press (shorter working area). The work around is to move the drill table out-of-the-way bolt a board to the base (wing nuts on the top and over large holes for adjustment)
same set up as yours with a nail and use a plumb bob with a rivet head on the string and place in the drill chuck as the string is be pulled through the side of the jaws to line the nail and chuck up, only pain for this type of drill press is a lot of bit changes. Hope this is understandable.




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Posted By: CaptainCranky
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 5:39am
Interesting post for drilling through poppers.I still have a lot of trouble drilling my Western Red Cedar Gt poppers with a 1/8 th drill bit because of the grain.The poppers are about 160mm long and I start with 50mm square timber.
I have a good lathe and also a good drill press and am yet to master the hole drilling down the centre.
I have not tried the nail under the other end yet so I will give it a try but I think the grain may still beat me over that distance.Please help if you have an answer to this problem.


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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 11:53am
Tincan-- I think I get the gist or your reply, very precise -never used this idea much as I don't make many lures that require a through wire.
Barry- yes western red, whatever you try and do with it, the hard /soft grain can be a pain in the A, all I can say is try it - sharp bits help, and maybe a differen type of bit if you can get them small enough, 'Forstners' should be good for this or even a 'Spade' bit might be o.k, again getting them small enough may be
 a problem, you could always make a small 'spade' I suppose.
Let us know how it goes.
Pete


Posted By: CaptainCranky
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 2:07pm
Pete I have tried to get a Forstners but 1/8 is not available.I have had Henry Hal and Jim McConachie trying to figure a way but no luck.The easiest way is to just use a 3/16 bit and have a big hole.
the last time I did it I used a 5/32 bit long series and I had the cedar in the lathe chuck and the drill bit in the tailstock and the bit came out the side of the lure 2/3 the way down.I thought I had mastered it when the tailstock feed got easier but after taking it out of the chuck I saw my mistake.
That's it I am going to make them out of Huon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted By: bilge
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 5:15pm
Barry I have chased drills and solutions to no avail Billj

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Posted By: Darby
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 5:57pm
Barry Ermm White Beech, White Beech Shocked !!!!!!! more tooth resistant than Huon and easier to get hold of Thumbs Up straight grain and would be beaut for NQ poppers

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Posted By: rally44
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 6:37pm
Barry, If you want to keep using the Western Red Cedar CUT  them up the middle & reglue. You`re not making big heaps of them, are you ??Merry Christmas , Richard.

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Posted By: CaptainCranky
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:06pm
Thanks Richard for the info.That is exactly what Henry Hall did and ran a 1/8 tool down the middle.He then epoxied the 2 halves together.
I hear you Brad but I am just trying to use up all this western that I have.It is not perfect but it's density is great for my popper.
I put my original post up just in case there was some little secret out there to do the job but it is something I have been painstakingly doing for years.Luckily I do not make many.
Thanks everyone for all your help.


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Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:09pm
This works for me but does not mean it is going to work for everybody, use an awl to start your hole (both ends), place on the lathe and drill better than three-quarters way through, use high-speed on your lathe, relieve the chips often otherwise you will put a lot of pressure on the drill bit and that will also cause it to wonder, turn around then finish off. Used this method with pine, white cedar(lilac), western red and Oregon with no problems unless I get lazy.

Tincan


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Posted By: CaptainCranky
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2011 at 5:28am
Peter I think it is a great idea and will give it a try ASAP.A lot of the timbers you list have that harder sap or grain line in them so it is nice to hear that you have success.

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Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 9:48pm



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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2012 at 8:17pm
[QUOTE=Tincan]This works for me but does not mean it is going to work for everybody, use an awl to start your hole (both ends), place on the lathe and drill better than three-quarters way through, use high-speed on your lathe, relieve the chips often otherwise you will put a lot of pressure on the drill bit and that will also cause it to wonder, turn around then finish off. Used this method with pine, white cedar(lilac), western red and Oregon with no problems unless I get lazy.

Tincan
 
 
Yes 'Tincan'', it's a bit like when you were young and trying to get a look up a girls dress, you have to use your imagination and turn the horizontal into vertical - I always had trouble with this, and also imagining a lathe as a drill press (and vica-versa) , until I read 'Husky's' post on this a few years back.
Just yesterday making a rotissorie for my barby, I had to find the centre of the shaft and drill a 6mm hole down the centre of it for the drive shaft,,, turned out just about perfect, cooked a chook on it tonight and it worked well----to drive it I used a microwave oven motor, by the way  .
 
Happy new year everybody, I'm finally home and have my house backOhYeah .
Pete


Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2012 at 9:43pm
Good stuff hazmail hope you saved me a leg anyway talking about imagination I used a idea about araldite and screw eyes from this site and it all went south for me, chucked the whole lot in the bin, the only thing I kept for this project was padgely comment to drill the syringe nozzle out. Here are the photos







No more mess for me or the cow needles, and works like a dream.

Tincan





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Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2012 at 9:50pm

Should add this as well.

Additional items used, rags for clean ups, methylated spirits as I find it easy to clean up the excess epoxy on the syringe and lures, wire to fit the inside diameter of the needle and a small container to reuse the methylated spirits before discarding then re-flush all the components with a fresh batch of methylated spirits.

Metal tubing can be sourced through hobby stores and hardware stores.

Just a general tip, if the metal tubing is smaller the the plastic tubing and won't hold tight, just place the plastic tubing into hot water, remove then stretch until you think you have reached the desired diameter. To fit the tubing together use a small awl to flare the plastic tubing ends.


Tincan



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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 6:48am
Thanks for posting Tincan, this setup looks very tidy.
 
Pete


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 7:35pm
EXCITING FREE OFFER
 
I have just about finishd the van and have a heap of off-cuts of 'Celuka Board' (chinese version cost me $180 a sheet) - There is  probabbly enough to make 300-400 X 5Cm lures.
( http://www.ypp.com.au/products.asp?id=31" rel="nofollow - http://www.ypp.com.au/products.asp?id=31 ) 
For lures, this expanded PVC foam board is much more durable than wood (impervious to Bream), is about the same density as Balsa so would need weighting. It carves, saws ,planes, sands and routs like wood, without the grain, fresh /salt water does not affect it (does not absorb water)
These off -cuts are mainly 15mm thick with some 20mm---if you want it thicker just use some Clear plumbers pipe glue to laminate /glue  two pieces togeather, you will never break it.
 

 

Whats the catch???? Best you use epoxy to finish it as thinners will attack it (If dipped) --Otherwise none, you send a self adressed standard A/Post box to me and and I willl pack and send it back (A/Post box about 15Cm X 20cm X 7.5 cm deep I Think) packed with various sizes, I will try my best to maximise the contents for you (sawn to box size).

Depending on the response, I will filll a box and WALK down to the P/O , get it weighed and check what these standard boxes full of Celuka will cost to post - I think the box is $2.50 so should be no more than $8-$9 total.
 
This is what it finishes like, same as wood???
 
 
 
If you want some  PM me
and I will let you know the cost, my address etc -- otherwise it goes to the plastic recycler.
Pete


Posted By: goldtrev68
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 3:04pm
HOLY CRAP you people are flaming clever little buggers mate I learnt more here in 30 minutes then those stupid teaches could teach me in 11 years some of you people should hold a learn lure making class and charge for a weekend I know I would pay,,Gary


Posted By: CircleVbaits
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 11:55pm
Hello Pete, pm sent.

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Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 11:23pm
I'm not sure if I have posted this here before but someone asked about making a lure turner today (for slow set Epoxy) so I went into the 'archives' and found some pictures--

I know there are a lot of different ways to do this, but as I don't make big (over 10cm) lures, a turner like this little one has served me well, 'Nicho' inherited this prototype about a year back, which I think is still working .
Pete

Cut an Aluminum circle (about 1.5-2mm thick)  and segment it to the number you need (my new one has 8 not 12) then drill holes for 'banana jacks'- cut segments and bend at angle you like, these are @ about 45 to 55deg.
 Looks like something out of a fun park LOL.



Microwave motors come @ various RPM from about 2 to 6 rpm, I think 6 is best.


Note angle is not vertical-- and the shaft is mounted on 2 rollers (3 is better), this supports the shaft to stop wear and stops the wheel from wobbling, shower screen rollers or skate board bearings are good.
Note-Lures are clamped in the hobby knife chuck where the blade is normally fitted



Go to 'J-Car' (or any electronics supplier) and ask for some 'banana jacks' and matching sockets, fit the sockets to the wheel.


AS it says but be careful, not too loose.


I used aluminium 'hobby knife' handles in the new one, cheap on 'FleaBay' if you buy by the dozen. Cut them to the length you want and epoxy them into the jacks.. Superglue the thread where it screws into the black plastic (they vibrate loose).



Lures can be removed or placed on wheel without having to un-clamp anything--These jacks also make a good holder for spraying, OR for just standing them on the bench, drill some holes for the jack to stand in, OR get a slab of wood and drill multiple holes, spray some blanks and carry the lot out into the nice warm sun to dry (if you live where there is sun).

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Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 11:44pm
Pete thanks for that, was using a BBQ Motor, timed it 3.5 rpm, still O.K for small wheel or inline turning , but have modified the wheel, so the travel time is to long (epoxy moves to far) plus the motor has a drop factor in it, so you can imagine the mess. Cheers thanks again will look for a microwave motor.

Tincan

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Posted By: CircleVbaits
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 1:07am
Pete , you are a Genius!!!!!!!!!
Great set-up,
Verlon


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Posted By: Red Hunter
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 8:04am
Great stuff here guys , heaps of good idears , thank you all for posting . Thumbs Up


Posted By: Mcleod
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 1:36pm
hey pete, nice work. Your tools always amaze me. That is an interesting looking lure in the bottom pic aswell.
 
Angus


Posted By: puglee62
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 7:06pm
great ideas there Pete,do you have any problems with the envirotex fouling the hobbyknife clamps?


Posted By: hazmail
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 10:09pm
Thanks again for the compliments, this one is pretty old, I posted it somewhere about 4 years back, if you do a search on U.S / European forum's there are all sorts of "wheels", but usually they are 'vertical drum' types for bigger/ longer lures.
Pete - No worries, hope you can find a micro motor, I have just about given all mine away.

Angus- that's when I was into 'Mylar' foiling, another fad LOL.

Chris- yes, sometimes if I get a bit rough painting it on- generally there is no need to get too close to them though, as the rear end is already sealed by the epoxy left around the end when the rear hook hanger gets epoxied in, way back up the 'paint chain'.
Pete



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Posted By: Darby
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 11:35pm
Tincan, 2 options, there are always microwave motor on evilbay, various speeds available.
Otherwise wait for the local council kerbside cleanup (if they have one) check out the tip/dump/transfer station.
We are about to have a clean up around here, i will be diving into any I see and will probably have some soon if you come up with a doughnut.
Brad


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Posted By: Tincan
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 12:25am
Darby we don't have kerbside cleanups our way Cry so might have to checkout evil bay unless I have another brain storm. Thanks.

Tincan


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Posted By: flyonline
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 7:39pm
BBQ rotisserie motors are an option, though they are generally slower - I think mines about 2.5rpm. 



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