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    Posted: 03 Apr 2015 at 6:54pm
DOES anyone still use these as i was goig to buy a zebco & get RETRO again any info on reels & rod line ETC thanksBig smileBig smileBig smileWinkWinkWinkregards bob
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I had a zebco many years ago for bass in small creeks. You brought back a lot of good memories! Good luck with your idea.
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A mate users a zebco on the bass &Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile likes em WinkWinkregards bob
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make sure you wear a pair of roman sandles, a tie die tshirt and bell bottom jeans when fishing small creeks using a zebco.
Nichos Maulers Homemade timber lures....THEY CATCH FISH!

YA DONT KNOW...IF YA DONT GO...SO GET OUT THERE AND... FISH IT
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CUZ i dress that way all the time manWinkBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileLOLLOLLOL
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Nichos Maulers Homemade timber lures....THEY CATCH FISH!

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Used to use them fishing extremely tight, overhung bass water many moons ago. The better performing closed face reels had twin line pick ups. Pretty hard to come by now days. ABU Abumatics had them on the 270 model (still got a 160 & 270) Don't use braid, it simply does't work, the line digs into the coils underneath, jams and you will wear a lure in the face. My wife used the 270, and caught every thing from Broadbar Mackeral to Jack with it. She used to impress Eric Moller with it's capability, when we fished with him at Cardwell in the late 70's. She actually progressed from it to a baitcaster without any trouble. The arm action and release moment are almost the same, which is more than half the battle learning to cast a baitcaster.
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Daiwa make a couple of models Gold Cast 80 100 and 120. Great for super light lures.
One on fake is better than ten on bait!!
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DO loomis still do pistol grips ???????regards bobBig smileBig smile
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To my knowledge, no. The pistol grips themselves were made by Fuji. They went out of fashion along with the reels ages back. One thing a closed face reel needs is to be lower on the rod to be comfortable. The trigger grip reel seats aren't really ideal for them. The Fuji system was great, you could have one handle, but be able to use different rods with the adaptor system they had. Like all good things they end.
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Bob I've got an old glass pistol grip rod.
Would make a good creek/tight country rod for someone going retro.
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COOL duck will talk soon shame that may be a diawia triforce if i can find oneLOLWinkWinkWinkBig smileBig smileregards bob
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Very popular fishing frogs in Tassie back in the 60's and  early 70's Abu was the main reel used back then

I think Roddy may have had a cheaper version in the 60's

They were  a popular reel in the USA regularly featured in ads and articles in that time period.

I also thought the gearing was weak in that type of reel
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I had a blue &white diawa  reel 114 i think it was a cheap bit of gear but it threw a lure &as kids we thought they were the poo back thenLOLLOLLOLBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileregards bob
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I think I had one of those Diawas as well. A small bass would pull line off a full drag and the pick up scuffed the line.
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Hi,  If anyone is interested I have a Daiwa Jupiter Z 25 Lever Drag with preset dial and  ball bearing open faced reel. Long cast system with tangle guard spool.  capacity 70 yds 10 lb monofiliment.

Not new but still in very good condition in box with instructions and drawings.

Think I bought same for my granddaughter to use at the Barra farm.

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Used a Mitchell closed face on an Ugly stick BC 1150 for many years and heaps of fish still have both but reel is dead. Deb used closed face reels until recently got smoked by some big lizards and ditched the idea finally.
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SEEN shakespeare  make a low profile one very slim torpedo shaped reel looked coolBig smileBig smileWinkregards bob
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ANYONE used a closed face undercast reel daiwa make one they look sweet alsoBig smileBig smileregards bob
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Just got this ABU 276ui seems OK.



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NICE outfit very nice can we use braid on these closed face reels?????&what would be the bestBig smileBig smileBig smileTongueTongueregards bob
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Haven't tried braid on any of my closed face reels, don't think they are made for braid as the line pick up is not hard enough.

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OKEY didnt know that flourcarbon might be the go go goBig smileBig smileWinkregards bob
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I used these a good bit back in the 70's

They had a few problems unless you bought the better models.

The rotors often used to rust because they had a folded lip on the bottom edge that tend to hold water. Also a lot of the cheaper models had very soft line pickup pins that used to groove out pretty quickly. The drags weren't real great on most of them either. On lighter lines it's probably better to backwind than rely on the mechanics!

ABUs were the most reliable and durable.  Daiwa also had one very good heavier model which I think was a 5400 from memory. Had good rust resistance and a very good line lay. It was a copper-red colour.

I wouldnt bother using braid because they are inclined to bed line on the spool and you'd probably saw the pickup pins off in no time!
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There was one marketed for braid it was sold loaded with Spider Wire. Not sure how successful and they are not still around so that says something though fashion is a big influence we all had the best baitcasters now it is all spin gear in catalogues
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As I mentioned earlier in this post, I have tried braid on a close face. Hopeless, closed face reels do not lay the line tight enough, especially if the spool doesn't oscillate like the Abumatics (270) used to. The line will bury into the underlying coils, exactly like braid wound too loosely on a spin or baitcast reel. The lack of a roller on the pick up pin will result in line grooves, even if you persist with braid. I think the only close face (if still made) Daiwa GC100 has these features. The last time I sold one (many years ago) they were up there with a mid range bait caster.
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was looking for a particular rod in the shed today and found this reel on a old Wilson pistol grip it has been around Australia 3 times and has caught just about every species of fish including 118cm barra in the Kimberlys .Maybe I should give it a service and use it again
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I THINK a retro fishing comp in a little dam or stream creek would be avery cool thing down the trackWinkWinkWinkWinkBig smileBig smileBig smileregards bob
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Originally posted by bassnbob bassnbob wrote:

I THINK a retro fishing comp in a little dam or stream creek would be avery cool thing down the trackWinkWinkWinkWinkBig smileBig smileBig smileregards bob


It's a pity I'm in the wrong bit of the country! I'd be in that like a shot! Wink

A fair chunk of my freshwater stuff is done with "retro" kit these days. Cane rods, Crouch, Clasmi, Record and early Mitchell reels, and even a few replicas of old lures!

The mates refer to it as my "St Vinnies Kit"

Bloody heathens! LOL
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Sounds like a good idea Bob you could even make like a pre 1990 lure use only
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I have been in a Dam (1950 and 60's )Early ABU spinning reels and more recently  late 60's early 70'sOrvis Italian Made phase.

I be interested if distance is not vast

I still have a very early Roddy closed  face reel somewhere ,that is if it has not ceased
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WHAT would the dress be tweed hunting atirer or footy jumpers &footy shorts rippd up ya asre cheecks id say the laters in my wardrobeLOLLOLLOLLOLConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedWinkWinkregards bob
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Just found my tie dyed T shirt but dont think it was made to accommodate a middle age spread maybe retro dress not a good idea
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Originally posted by bassnbob bassnbob wrote:

WHAT would the dress be tweed hunting atirer or footy jumpers &footy shorts rippd up ya asre cheecks id say the laters in my wardrobeLOLLOLLOLLOLConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedWinkWinkregards bob

I would say this has virtually killed this ideaWink......B.O.B. in A*&E cheek showing ripped footy shortsDeadDeadDeadLOL
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your right mate it'll be just a deerstalker hat and tweeds for Lord Schofield I think ,retro gear fishing comps would be cool ,I recon a lot of us would be up for that.i got an eighties vintage crystal tip silstar outfit with a shimano bantam,would love to get it some use again.i'll supply a trophy if anyone wants to organise this
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