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    Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 9:05pm
Hey Fellas,

Of late I have been doing a lot of exploring some new water which hold deep water rock bars and structure which will hold Barra and threadies... After several runs over the areas I have been able to consistently mark good fish and bait on the sounder... These rock bars are anywhere from 5m to 10m below the boat....

This is where I have hit a problem... So far I have spent over 100 bucks buying deep diving trolling lures which include: 120mm 5m and 8m+ RMG Scorpians and 20+ Killa lure River Rats.....

These lures are still at times not making it to where the fish are!!!

So am chasing some suggestions on lures (trolling lures) that will dive 8m-11m???

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!

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Nick,
Have you tried RMG Scorpion Crazy Deep. They work well on Barra & Fingermark up Hinchinbrook.
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Nick, what about Predatek 150 Hyper Vipers. they are supposed to hit 8mt +

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Nick
 
Assume you are using braid maybe need to run the lure back further.  Downrigger is your other option.
 
Or anchor up and drop plastics.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Davent Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 9:32pm
deep poltergeis-t, 8 m scorpian,deep rapala x rap, and fish them way back. Drive the lures, not the boat.
Sorry,just re read your post,tried that, maybe see if you can get your hands on some manns streatch 30,s.Troll hour before low tide,untill about an hour after the change, that might save you a few meters. Those deep x raps get down there.
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Simons right Nick try running your lures way back on the finest line you can get away with.i know the lure you need its a Manns 30+ ,i got one hanging up in my shed if you want it (dont think they make them any more).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NB96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 2012 at 4:34pm
Thanks Fellas,

OCD: thanks, yes I do have the crazy deeps
Darby: thanks, will have a look while I am in local tackle store tomorrow
Simon Bruce: thanks, yes I am using 30lb Braid and 50lb Leader, I am running my lure back approx 100ft... Will let more line out when I do a run this weekend!!
Davent: Thanks, will check them out... Those tides you said are what I am fishing at the moment... 1hr before low and 1hr after...
Puglee: thanks, will check then out... Will see if I can find them anywhere on the net (eBay,etc.)

Thanks Nick
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NB have a look at Mo tackle for the MANNS +30 they got some & a great price,,GAry
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Thanks Gary... Will do know!!!
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Try looping a one ounce ball sinker on to the trace about 1.5 metres above the lure. Doing that over here for snapper gets a 4 metre deep minnow down to 10 or more metres. Trolling at very slow walking speed with about 30 metres of line out, you can still see the lure working through rod tip.
Look at the Illusion lures, Wal gave me some good tips/advice, he has some nice deep running lures.
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Hi there, 

Have you tried the Dr.Evil, from Classic lures?
It goes down much deeper than the +20 advertised.


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when i want to get lures down on the troll i put my main line through a snapper sinker eye and tie it to a large swivel , then the leader about half a metre shorter then the rod
 this works like a large running sinker and cheap down rigger weight as the fish can run without the weight to throw the hooks.. so the lure you like the best can be fished much deeper on a short line
 many Jackels LCB can be fished vertical or large blades,and soft plastic
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any word on whats been working for you? i use crazy deep laser pros. they get down pretty good
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Downriggers are just the ticket. A quality release clip is essential.
Otherwise Verticals are good in holes too small to troll, around drowned timber, etc.
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Originally posted by Pecheur Pecheur wrote:

Hi there, 

Have you tried the Dr.Evil, from Classic lures?
It goes down much deeper than the +20 advertised.


Have a good day,
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I cant get them past 18ft
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how'd you go nick, figure it out?
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ANYONE ever tried the mr twister ZIP BOOM system if so can they still be bought ETC????????TongueTongueBig smileBig smileregards bob
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I'm KEEN to try anything that goes........ ZIP BOOM!!! Evil Smile
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The CASTING ARM can handle it! Big smile
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YEAH mal i think ya can drop a smaller lure down to bass schooled up in 60=70+  feet in glenbawn bro without a downriggerWinkWinkWinkregards bob
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Reckon this is what your looking for Big smile

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HOLY  doolyWinkWinkregards bob
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Boone Feather Trolling Lures - Boone Feather Trolling Jigs work on many popular bluewater fish such as mahi mahi, tuna and wahoo. Each lure is rigged with a Mustad 6/0 double hook and 100lb mono leader. For more information visit at http://www.dinga.com.au


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Have you thought about using a downrigger.i started using one trolling in alake for trout and havent looked back
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YEP ROB i had a large magnum down rigger on me 5m quinnie worked a treat the charter boat i work on he had the little screw on scottys there were awesome too but nowere near the quality of the magnum downriggersTongueTongueTongueTongueTongueTongueBig smileBig smileregards bob
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you could get a sinking lure? sink to the depth you want then swim it.

sounds like you need one of my sinking bibbed prototype lures. 
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What length of lure body are you looking at for this?
 
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BASS lures to troll 50 to 90 feet glenbawn basin & etcWinkBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileregards bob
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Home made  "bait Jig's" work better for that Bob, stay in the strike zone longer tooWink 
 
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NOW how would ya know that young walterLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLDeadregards bob
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Just upgraded to a cannon mag5 st electrlc downrigger very happy with it but the auto retieve will not function unless i earth the battery to my aluminium hull. I have heard this may cause electrolisis or galvonic corrosion.read some things saying it is ok and some saying it is taboo!!???
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I THINK there at least one or 2 earths on any boat rob the cannon sounds the go WinkClapClapClapregards bob
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Sebile Koolie deep there set up for deep Barra and will outfish anything
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Originally posted by bassnbob bassnbob wrote:

NOW how would ya know that young walterLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLDeadregards bob
 
2 hook's per line outside of trout waters in NSW FreshwaterWink work's well on Yella's and School Jew and other stuff as well.....
 Bass are baitfish aren't they??Devil
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