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bassnbob
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WAL would that be over the top of them tombstones broregards bob
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Darby
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That brings back some memories Wobert, just north of the wall, opposite the boat ramps, sitting in 80ft of water, dropping 3" Sliders on 1/4oz heads into the tops of gum trees 25 feet below.. .....jig..jig.....awww crap I am on........wind wind, thumb lock, rod buckles......ahhhh got him |
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"If you are going to have fun with your rod.. get some wood
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bassnbob
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THATS were they are brad spent 2 week there last year & didnt go out of the basin fish every were regards bob
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muckawa
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Gopsy
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Try one of those from Rapala , Mastuzo or luckyJohn
http://topfishingbox.com/lures.php?mode=more&id=1716 http://topfishingbox.com/lures.php?mode=more&id=14326 http://topfishingbox.com/lures.php?mode=more&id=14365 http://topfishingbox.com/lures.php?mode=more&id=14014 Depending on speed and line length they going up
to 12m, I usualy trol ~40-70 away and with 2,5-5 km/h speed depend on fish and fish activity. Also you can use troling sinkers at http://www.cabelas.com you can find them, so you can use other shallower lures, like spiners etc. I adding ~2m fluocarbon lead after sinker. |
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JKR
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Snapweights could be a good option.
Google that and look for the Off Shore Tackle pdf. I've used them a fair bit pre-downrigger days.
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Gopsy
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Most important choose which on load (when you pull the fish) switches straight, because if not then very hevy and very big load or just use straight connected.
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rivermandave
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I believe the olders Mann's 30+ is now the "Depth Plus 30+". Check on this page... http://store.mannsbait.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=66&limit=100 |
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chooka44
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Deep 11cm Rapala Taildancers will hit 30ft easilly
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bassnbob
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NEVER SEEN one show one ya gun ==== bob
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beer-breath
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a downrigger is the best way to go.
but, I still just run anywhere from 1 0z, 2 oz, and 3 oz slip weights on the line about 6-7' ahead of the lure for most my fishing in depths down to 50' or so.
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Balls
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G'day NB96
Troll with the current & sufficient speed to still control the lure/line you are trolling the rock bar, lure depth will increase dramatically,but be prepared to lose some lures depending on the structure if you reach the required depth, there is a lot less chance of backing lures up in this method of trolling. As others said drop back, leader size, braid size will also have an effect, if you are running a double I would try deleting that & just try a reverse albright or similar to attach your braid to your leader, good luck beating the rock bar depth, cheers Balls. |
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Slothy
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These Jigwobblers are a Finnish-made lure with a lead head and a timber body. I've made a few of my own copies for snook once the weather warms up again. They get deep and have an interesting action. There's some vids on youtube showing them swimming.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JIGWOBBLER-29gr-8cm-BLUE-SILVER-/121188367646?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_101&hash=item1c3763bd1e |
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beer-breath
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here's the in-line slip-weights that I use.
they just clip and slide on your line to where you want it, and it doesn't add any resistance when fighting the fish.
I just make sure to place it close enough to the lure so that when reeling the fish in, the weight doesn't get to the rod and your fish is still too far out there.
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beer-breath
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other alternatives to a down-rigger for getting far deeper than just some smaller weights are dipsy divers, pink lady's, and deep-six's.
these are far superior to adding weight because they pull your lure down to a desired depth and keep it there, then, when a fish strikes, the pull on the line unclips a mechanism on the device and straitens it so that it's resistance and drag is then gone for fighting the fish.
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beer-breath
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that's the dipsy diver.
and it can be also adjusted to pull out to either side as well.
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beer-breath
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this is the pink lady.
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beer-breath
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and this is probably the best one I think.
the deep-six.
different sizes run you to different depths, I think down to 60 feet.
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bilge
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Has anyone suggested Barrabaits 12+, or the deeper version I am not whether its 15 or 20 +, and Tillson
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The older I get the more I learn.
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rickyb62
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These beaded kealed trolling sinkers are great. I bought mine on line from the states. You can get them up to 8 oz, troll them behind a 3 metre leader i found successful. |
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puglee62
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that's no how ye make porridge!
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rickyb62
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I know this is an old thread, but always handy when others are looking for ideas
Another idea I'm about to try as well are Planers, I know not big in Oz but I really think there worth a go. |
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horrorhead
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I’m looking at getting into deep water trolling as I see a lot of fish on my sounder much deeper than my lures reach. I’ll be reading this post again to get ideas. I have one of those planing thingamabobs somewhere
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rickyb62
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rickyb62
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Hi Mate Planer I posted below is apparently the go, don't think you can get them in Oz, not 100% on that. Ive just bought 2 on Amazon. Big in the US, plenty of Utube clips and info on rigging them either on your rod or using them as a "Poor Mans Downrigger"Im keen to get home and give them a run myself Good luck Rick
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Ducks
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There are some good budget options here. But if you're going to be doing it a lot, just go for a decent downrigger I reckon.
They are quick to deploy and provide very accurate depth control. I don't know anyone who has fitted a downrigger, actually used it, and regretted it. |
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rickyb62
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With you 100% on that one
unfortunately very hard to pick one up in my neck of the woods (Thailand) so I'm making do with the next best options I guess I've used a Down Rigger on a mates boat in Oz, I think there great too Just picked up a couple of Sea Striker Planners, so I'm hoping they will do the trick for me. Chasing some Kings in some deeper water
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Kimo
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Hi Ricky
Don`t want to butt in here, and the guys on here would be much greater and have more accurate assistance on trolling lures than me. So most of what I say can be taken lightly. That said I am not to sure that the metal plates you have ordered will do what you are looking to do. They look very similar to some that were marketed in SA quite a few years back as paravanes These can be set to troll to whatever depth you desire and will do this without a problem. The main line with a lure can be attached to the paravane through a quick release clip and run back behind the paravane. The problem you may inure is that a lure with the slightest of weight or resistance in the water pulls or tilts the back of the paravane down, which tilts the forward part of the paravane up resulting in the paravane being dragged to the surface We often just run a single hook with a fish air bladder attached or a slither of white plastic cut from the side of an litre icecream container Hope I have this wrong, but if I have not it may be worth a try Kimo |
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rickyb62
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Hi Kimo
no problem at all, that what this is all about (for me anyway) getting idea's and sharing experiences. I have read that depending on what you trolling, it can trip the planer (called paravanes as well) Im sure they are the same Different brands different quality as well (like anything) Apparently if trolling hard bodies, if you used deep divers ie: Magnum XRap etc they have a tendency to trip the planer. So non deep diving hard bodies, strip baits, spoons, basically anything that has minimal resistance are ok.. (I hope) Proof will be in the eating as they say, Im looking forward of getting home to give them a crack I will leave some feedback after I have had a crack Cheers
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JKR
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