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Steve B
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Posted: 29 Jun 2014 at 1:47pm |
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Hi All
I'm interested in bib theory, action, depth etc resultant of shape. I've had a quick search of this site and can't see anything definitive. I'm aware of the basics of bib angle and tow points, and I've read that square bibs dive deeper and round bibs increase wobble. However what relationships are influenced by v shapes, cupping convex or concave, I'd much appreciate the collective learnings of all in this regard. I've been making a few lures lately and have been experimenting in the test tank (swimming pool) however there's many variables so I thought I'd come to the font of all knowledge piscatorial. Cheers Steve. |
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Steve--you should find all you need in here-- http://www.tacklemaking.com/default.php?pageID=98
Scroll down to Bibs/ Lips?? also look in the side box "Browse", more info in there on various things. Personally I use 'curved', only because you can get more(or less) depth and action for a lot less plastic. Pete |
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Steve, try different bib positions and lure shapes , experimentation is the key , thats how you learn, cheers pearcey
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Steve ,
The answer to your question would fill a book the size of War and Peace. There are so many variables and possibilities that there really is no definitive answer. As far as "square bibs go deeper and round bibs increase wobble..." , any lure maker can make a square bibbed lure with lots of wobble [it depends on the location of the towpoint and the width of the bib in relation to the mass X bouyancy of the lure...] , equally , a 'round bibbed' lure can be made to go very deep via the same rationale. The 'one rule' is that there are no definitive rules. The 'font' of all knowledge piscatorial isnt here. lts in the heads of great men like Newell , McCristal , Lewers , Leadbeater , Clark , Pakula etc etc. Enjoy experimenting and trying new things for yourself in your luremaking. lt is a cliche' , but very true , that it is the journey rather than the end that makes an undertaking worthwhile Barney.
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Steve, I recently did a test using one of my shapes with different bibs in it, surprisingly the action was very similar no matter what the bib shape and style was, only the depth capability which I was already aware of.
As suggested, have a play with size, shape and angle and see what happens. Brad |
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Steve I love playing with new shapes and bibs and have come up with some interesting results.
As I work from an ipad it is not easy to up load photos, but the most interesting I did manage to post. If you can search back under my initials and look for 'Those bibs I mentioned' you can have a look. But it's probably been done before. Barney has seen this swim and he wasn't greatly impressed. Regards Gordon |
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G'day Steve, did you enter the RDS? If yes, hope you nail it.
I use only ali for bibs, have several shapes I use and sometimes I cup them, sometimes not. Just lately while swim testing, I have been experimenting with the shape and angle of the tow eyelet. I've found I can radically vary the depth and wobble, just by tuning this eyelet. Think I initially discovered this trick by reading an old backing card, that came with a Norm Edwards lure I purchased here in Darwin around 30yrs. ago. So the idea isn't new, give it a go. Regards, Seaweed.
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Steve B
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Thanks all for your insights, I have been experimenting and learning along the way, I agree with all and am enjoying the collective conversation. Much if not all in life is about the journey, so hearing you loud and clear there and yes Seaweed I've entered the Royal Darwin Show, as I'm sure others here have, maybe we can get a group photo later in the month, and thanks for the eyelet bending comment, I'll focus on that too
Cheers Steve. |
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Whats the go with the show, I actually suggested this at last years show, and gave the lady who ran the stand this sites address.
I havnt entered anything yet, but would like to, how do I go about it. Dont care about prizes, but would love to see what others are doing! Seaweed, I still dont have a guru or seaweed lure yet, and am keen to swap with you, if you would like to, I have a few to choose from, And Steve as well, maybe we could get together one day for a darwin meet? I know a bloke in Palmo who makes some cracking poppers who I think would join us, what do yas reckon? |
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Steve B
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Dave, contact the Royal Darwin Show in business hours, contact details on their web site, entries closed a while ago but I'm sure if you talk with them nicely they'll accept a late entry, the more the merrier, I'm in it for the fun of it, there'll be some stiff competition I'm sure. Seaweed is a nice genuine bloke, I think a Darwin catch up would be good idea.
cheers Steve |
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Entries closed 13th june, not fair to enter late, might ask if i can put them in as a non competitor, just to fill some spots and add variety.
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