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    Posted: 08 Apr 2016 at 7:20am
Hi there. I am thinking about buying some pliers for making wire loops. Seems to be various arrangements from simple long nose round to multistage round and concave jaws($8 to $50). What types and makes might you recommend? I am using .9mm MIG stainless wire...I think.  Thankyou...Mick
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Hi Mick
Aircraft wire twisting pliers and stainless aircraft safety wire are available on line or from the light aircraft area at most airports. I found the mig wire hard to work and brittle. Have a Google and you'll see heaps.
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I tried them many years ago, weren't for me, a cup hook in a cordless drill is hard to beat 
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I have a set of twisting pliers, great for small gauge but I found even .9 mm was to heavy to twist so now I just loop the wire over, place the two ends in a vice and then I have a large nail I bent into a hook and placed in my drill then loop the nail through the loop in wire and pull the trigger, perfect loops every time
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Thanks for the advice on the wire, pliers and twisting methods. I'll have a go with a drill today and I'll track down some aircraft safety wire. Cheers. Mick
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Mick

I've done fairly heavy stainless wire with safety pliers (1 or 1.2mm from memory) but it is hard going. I use a long narrow phillips screwdriver as the ring former so I can put my feet on it and pull with both hands. It also helps to pre twist it a little in the right direction. Means I can do them wasting time watching TV, but can't do too many before the hands start to hurt but I keep meaning to make up a handle cover for the 'puller' bit so I can get a better grip.

Shop around a bit, prices vary somewhat.

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Make a simple gadget to form wire made from wooden dowel two nails and a hose clamp, if you find that the wire fails while twisting just form the loop first then twist them up, as Steve said, if you go the pliers way set it up as in the photo will save your hands. Just drill a hole into a cupboard knob and glue the very top section into it.

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Hi Peter
I like the knob idea, that's a winner the 2 size dowel story is good too.
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This is how I make my twisted wires (1.9 mm).....made a fitting for the battery screwdriver. Much easier on the hands than lockwire pliers....





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Gee thanks for taking the time to share this information - really appreciated. I have been practicing this exact same method i.e. the wire ends in the vice then a hook in the drill - really good results. Thanks again.....Mick
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Drill by far for me aswell .
I just stick the 2 ends in the drill then put over nail . I find that way quicker .
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If you have the mig wire and you may have a mig welder  pull out 8 to 10 feet tie it to the earth clamp turn the wire feed to a low as possible and cycle the mig trigger when the wire starts to smoke for most of the length increase the cycling of the trigger until red take your finger off the trigger and wiggle the wire this will because of the wire thickness quench it, and the wire will be annealed "softened" it will be a discolored a quick rub with scotchbrite will sort that out I know how much a roll of mig wire is and I am making a few assumptions on what's in your garage .  SS304 and 316 both can be annealed this way and copper
The cup hook from Big river is a good idea as it keeps the wire in the center of the drill chuck less wobble 
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Thanks for the information Doc. My son is the welder so I'll see what he can do. Again I am amazed at the depth of knowledge on this site - much appreciated. I can't wait until I might be able to help someone too!Smile
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G'day Blinky
Do you mind me asking where you got the hook attachment to twist your wires? I have been using 25 mm cup hooks and just keep stripping the ends on them, need something a bit tougher.
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Originally posted by Hutcho1977 Hutcho1977 wrote:

G'day Blinky
Do you mind me asking where you got the hook attachment to twist your wires? I have been using 25 mm cup hooks and just keep stripping the ends on them, need something a bit tougher.
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haha, Ok no worries , nothing to hi tech then,whats the bit it sits in, Looks like a little mini drill chuck?
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