Lure signatures and stripes

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   Hi,  Was wondering what sort of pen was used for signatures etc. on lures?

At what stage is the info put on the lure ie. before clear or epoxy finish?

Have tried CD markers and 'Sharpie' and other types and get runs or fades to nothing.

Is it also true that Moller lure stripes were put on with some type of marking pen?

Thanks for any information

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goldtrev Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Aug 2011 Location: Townsville Status: Offline Points: 203	Post Options Post Reply Quote goldtrev Report Post Thanks(2) Quote Reply Topic: Lure signatures and stripes Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 11:42am
	Hi, Was wondering what sort of pen was used for signatures etc. on lures? At what stage is the info put on the lure ie. before clear or epoxy finish? Have tried CD markers and 'Sharpie' and other types and get runs or fades to nothing. Is it also true that Moller lure stripes were put on with some type of marking pen? Thanks for any information
	goldtrev

Darby Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Stall Holder Fishaholic Lures Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Status: Offline Points: 7477	Post Options Post Reply Quote Darby Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 12:08pm
	Barry, I too have tried all manner of pens, but the best results have come using a Posca brand pen, one of thier 'glass markers' it seems to contain a more paint based fluid rather than an ink based which is the type found in most Sharpie, Texta etc. Using these pens, I have been able to apply single and 2 pack clear normally after a couple of hours. I got a selection of colours including white off evilbay pretty cheap. All the texts I have perused say a normal ink based marker will do, but the trick is to allow 12hours for the carrier solvent to dry out, and apply a mist coat of clear, allow to dry overnight then apply further clear as normal. Hope this helps
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Fysshe Salmon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List LureLovers.com Fanatic Fysshe Lures Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Location: Taylors Beach Status: Offline Points: 2747	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fysshe Salmon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 1:12pm
	My favourite pen has been a "Millenium" by ZIG. have been using this one for 10 yrs at least. and can brush or spray over it within 10 mins without running, Also the Artline Ergoline is pretty good but I put a fine mist spray on it at least 10 minutes before full gloss. With the Moller stripes, I believe they were brushed on with a small artists brush. The black/yellow Dempsters were striped with a Nikko type marker.
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goldtrev Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Aug 2011 Location: Townsville Status: Offline Points: 203	Post Options Post Reply Quote goldtrev Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 2:26pm
	Thank you both for your response and information. regards Barry
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puglee62 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Stall Holder Fugly Lures Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: ipswich Status: Offline Points: 7939	Post Options Post Reply Quote puglee62 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 2:28pm
	I use a uniball UB 177 to write on mine but it has to be "fixed" with a light spray of acrylic lacquer clear.glad you put this question up Goldtrev as ive been wondering what the other guys use
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hazmail Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Stall Holder Rayna Lures Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: Calwell A.C.T Status: Offline Points: 2562	Post Options Post Reply Quote hazmail Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 8:14pm
	Yes Barry you need to pick through them and test, or just try the ones suggested as these guys have had years testing these-- Sometimes I'm amazed seeing nice lures with w big flash signatures and no sealer over it--just get a 'kneenex' with a few drops of metho on it and you can make it disappear in a flash, also sometimes I wonder how many lures get "conveniently" signed by a new owner, nothing to stop them. After trying heaps of different markers (none of the above), if I do sign one these days I use a 3B lead pencil, signed before the final coat. Pete
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Raffey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List LureLovers.com Fanatic Joined: 16 Apr 2014 Location: Canberra, ACT Status: Offline Points: 1324	Post Options Post Reply Quote Raffey Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 9:28pm
	Hi Barry. I'm very new to lure making so I haven't tried too many methods of signing, however I am on the same page as Pete - a pencil has worked very well for me too. Not too light (high into the H side) that you have to press down hard into the paintwork and timber, and not too heavy (higher into the B side) as it will crumble and go on too thick/rough. I have put a pin sharp edge on a HB and it is amazing how fine and neat you can write on the lure and it hasn't run yet. I've been writing directly on the paint before the clear coating. Cheers, Danny.

Seaweed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List LureLovers.com Fanatic née Capt.Seaweed Joined: 23 Jan 2011 Location: Darwin N.T. Status: Offline Points: 3124	Post Options Post Reply Quote Seaweed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Feb 2015 at 3:14pm
	As to your other query, Eric used enamel paints to apply his stripes and spots, he often had help from family, especially his grandson Bruce. Some Moller lookalikes, have used texta stripes on Tiger style lures. Seaweed.
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