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hazmail
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Thanks Tony / Bluey for the info, no one can hide these days .. I suppose I was just wondering out aloud where he had gone as I had not seen him on any of the forums for a year or two----Your discriptions sound like him, he was into game fishing---He also seemed like a guy who was more into fishing than talking about it.
Thanks again. Pete
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hazmail
Stall Holder Rayna Lures Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: Calwell A.C.T Status: Offline Points: 2561 |
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For the "Popper" guys (also jerk baits/ gliders).
A lot of guys would probably know this but some may not.!!!! Again, not my idea, I think it was posted three or four years back by a very clever guy from U.S named 'Husky' - an amazingly simple (for me anyway) solution for drilling a paralell (or off centre ) wire hole through a blank.It's just a vertical version of a lathe 'dead centre' ---BUT you will need drill press to do it------ First get a square plank of wood and a nail about the same diameter as the hole you want- Sharpen the nail to a point , drill a tight hole (with drill press so it's square) in the plank of wood and drive the nail through it: Get your popper blank and the centre finder you made (see previous post) and mark the centres on both ends, OR mark it "off centre" if you wish. Put the plank with the nail in it upright on the bed, and with the size drill bit you need to use fixed in the chuck (drill bit as long a possible), lower and centre the tip of the drill to the exact point of the nail, now clamp the plank to the drill bed so it can't move: Place your bottom mark of the blank on the nail tip: Start the drill and while holding the blank, lower the bit to your top centre mark and slowly drill your hole-- If the bit is not long enough turn the blank around and drill it from that end too, you will find the holes meet up exactly--If you want one end to be 'off-centre', just make a mark where you want the hole to exit, stand it on the nail tip and drill away. Pete |
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Tincan
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Hazmail it also depends on the type of drill press you own, for me I do it on a lathe but for those who do not own a lathe and have a bench drill press (shorter working area). The work around is to move the drill table out-of-the-way bolt a board to the base (wing nuts on the top and over large holes for adjustment)
same set up as yours with a nail and use a plumb bob with a rivet head on the string and place in the drill chuck as the string is be pulled through the side of the jaws to line the nail and chuck up, only pain for this type of drill press is a lot of bit changes. Hope this is understandable. |
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CaptainCranky
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Interesting post for drilling through poppers.I still have a lot of trouble drilling my Western Red Cedar Gt poppers with a 1/8 th drill bit because of the grain.The poppers are about 160mm long and I start with 50mm square timber.
I have a good lathe and also a good drill press and am yet to master the hole drilling down the centre. I have not tried the nail under the other end yet so I will give it a try but I think the grain may still beat me over that distance.Please help if you have an answer to this problem.
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hazmail
Stall Holder Rayna Lures Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: Calwell A.C.T Status: Offline Points: 2561 |
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Tincan-- I think I get the gist or your reply, very precise -never used this idea much as I don't make many lures that require a through wire.
Barry- yes western red, whatever you try and do with it, the hard /soft grain can be a pain in the A, all I can say is try it - sharp bits help, and maybe a differen type of bit if you can get them small enough, 'Forstners' should be good for this or even a 'Spade' bit might be o.k, again getting them small enough may be a problem, you could always make a small 'spade' I suppose. Let us know how it goes. Pete
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CaptainCranky
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Pete I have tried to get a Forstners but 1/8 is not available.I have had Henry Hal and Jim McConachie trying to figure a way but no luck.The easiest way is to just use a 3/16 bit and have a big hole.
the last time I did it I used a 5/32 bit long series and I had the cedar in the lathe chuck and the drill bit in the tailstock and the bit came out the side of the lure 2/3 the way down.I thought I had mastered it when the tailstock feed got easier but after taking it out of the chuck I saw my mistake. That's it I am going to make them out of Huon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Barry I have chased drills and solutions to no avail Billj
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Darby
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Barry White Beech, White Beech !!!!!!! more tooth resistant than Huon and easier to get hold of straight grain and would be beaut for NQ poppers
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rally44
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Barry, If you want to keep using the Western Red Cedar CUT them up the middle & reglue. You`re not making big heaps of them, are you ??Merry Christmas , Richard.
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CaptainCranky
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Thanks Richard for the info.That is exactly what Henry Hall did and ran a 1/8 tool down the middle.He then epoxied the 2 halves together.
I hear you Brad but I am just trying to use up all this western that I have.It is not perfect but it's density is great for my popper. I put my original post up just in case there was some little secret out there to do the job but it is something I have been painstakingly doing for years.Luckily I do not make many. Thanks everyone for all your help.
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Tincan
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This works for me but does not mean it is going to work for everybody, use an awl to start your hole (both ends), place on the lathe and drill better than three-quarters way through, use high-speed on your lathe, relieve the chips often otherwise you will put a lot of pressure on the drill bit and that will also cause it to wonder, turn around then finish off. Used this method with pine, white cedar(lilac), western red and Oregon with no problems unless I get lazy.
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CaptainCranky
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Peter I think it is a great idea and will give it a try ASAP.A lot of the timbers you list have that harder sap or grain line in them so it is nice to hear that you have success.
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Tincan
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hazmail
Stall Holder Rayna Lures Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: Calwell A.C.T Status: Offline Points: 2561 |
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[QUOTE=Tincan]This works for me but does not mean it is going to work for everybody, use an awl to start your hole (both ends), place on the lathe and drill better than three-quarters way through, use high-speed on your lathe, relieve the chips often otherwise you will put a lot of pressure on the drill bit and that will also cause it to wonder, turn around then finish off. Used this method with pine, white cedar(lilac), western red and Oregon with no problems unless I get lazy.
Tincan Yes 'Tincan'', it's a bit like when you were young and trying to get a look up a girls dress, you have to use your imagination and turn the horizontal into vertical - I always had trouble with this, and also imagining a lathe as a drill press (and vica-versa) , until I read 'Husky's' post on this a few years back. Just yesterday making a rotissorie for my barby, I had to find the centre of the shaft and drill a 6mm hole down the centre of it for the drive shaft,,, turned out just about perfect, cooked a chook on it tonight and it worked well----to drive it I used a microwave oven motor, by the way . Happy new year everybody, I'm finally home and have my house back . Pete
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Tincan
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Good stuff hazmail hope you saved me a leg anyway talking about imagination I used a idea about araldite and screw eyes from this site and it all went south for me, chucked the whole lot in the bin, the only thing I kept for this project was padgely comment to drill the syringe nozzle out. Here are the photos
No more mess for me or the cow needles, and works like a dream. Tincan |
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Tincan
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Should add this as well. Additional items used, rags for clean ups, methylated spirits as I find it easy to clean up the excess epoxy on the syringe and lures, wire to fit the inside diameter of the needle and a small container to reuse the methylated spirits before discarding then re-flush all the components with a fresh batch of methylated spirits. Metal tubing can be sourced through hobby stores and hardware stores. Just a general tip, if the metal tubing is smaller the the plastic tubing and won't hold tight, just place the plastic tubing into hot water, remove then stretch until you think you have reached the desired diameter. To fit the tubing together use a small awl to flare the plastic tubing ends. Tincan |
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hazmail
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Thanks for posting Tincan, this setup looks very tidy.
Pete
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hazmail
Stall Holder Rayna Lures Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: Calwell A.C.T Status: Offline Points: 2561 |
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Whats the catch???? Best you use epoxy to finish it as thinners will attack it (If dipped) --Otherwise none, you send a self adressed standard A/Post box to me and and I willl pack and send it back (A/Post box about 15Cm X 20cm X 7.5 cm deep I Think) packed with various sizes, I will try my best to maximise the contents for you (sawn to box size). Depending on the response, I will filll a box and WALK down to the P/O , get it weighed and check what these standard boxes full of Celuka will cost to post - I think the box is $2.50 so should be no more than $8-$9 total.This is what it finishes like, same as wood??? Pete
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goldtrev68
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HOLY CRAP you people are flaming clever little buggers mate I learnt more here in 30 minutes then those stupid teaches could teach me in 11 years some of you people should hold a learn lure making class and charge for a weekend I know I would pay,,Gary
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CircleVbaits
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Hello Pete, pm sent.
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hazmail
Stall Holder Rayna Lures Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: Calwell A.C.T Status: Offline Points: 2561 |
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I'm not sure if I have posted this here before but someone asked about making a lure turner today (for slow set Epoxy) so I went into the 'archives' and found some pictures--
I know there are a lot of different ways to do this, but as I don't make big (over 10cm) lures, a turner like this little one has served me well, 'Nicho' inherited this prototype about a year back, which I think is still working . Pete Cut an Aluminum circle (about 1.5-2mm thick) and segment it to the number you need (my new one has 8 not 12) then drill holes for 'banana jacks'- cut segments and bend at angle you like, these are @ about 45 to 55deg. Looks like something out of a fun park . Microwave motors come @ various RPM from about 2 to 6 rpm, I think 6 is best. Note angle is not vertical-- and the shaft is mounted on 2 rollers (3 is better), this supports the shaft to stop wear and stops the wheel from wobbling, shower screen rollers or skate board bearings are good. Note-Lures are clamped in the hobby knife chuck where the blade is normally fitted Go to 'J-Car' (or any electronics supplier) and ask for some 'banana jacks' and matching sockets, fit the sockets to the wheel. AS it says but be careful, not too loose. I used aluminium 'hobby knife' handles in the new one, cheap on 'FleaBay' if you buy by the dozen. Cut them to the length you want and epoxy them into the jacks.. Superglue the thread where it screws into the black plastic (they vibrate loose). Lures can be removed or placed on wheel without having to un-clamp anything--These jacks also make a good holder for spraying, OR for just standing them on the bench, drill some holes for the jack to stand in, OR get a slab of wood and drill multiple holes, spray some blanks and carry the lot out into the nice warm sun to dry (if you live where there is sun). Pete |
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Tincan
Senior Member Joined: 24 Feb 2011 Location: Albury N.S.W Status: Offline Points: 517 |
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Pete thanks for that, was using a BBQ Motor, timed it 3.5 rpm, still O.K
for small wheel or inline turning , but have modified the wheel, so the
travel time is to long (epoxy moves to far) plus the motor has a drop
factor in it, so you can imagine the mess. Cheers thanks again will look
for a microwave motor.
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CircleVbaits
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Pete , you are a Genius!!!!!!!!!Great set-up,Verlon
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Red Hunter
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Great stuff here guys , heaps of good idears , thank you all for posting .
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Mcleod
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hey pete, nice work. Your tools always amaze me. That is an interesting looking lure in the bottom pic aswell.
Angus
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puglee62
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great ideas there Pete,do you have any problems with the envirotex fouling the hobbyknife clamps?
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hazmail
Stall Holder Rayna Lures Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: Calwell A.C.T Status: Offline Points: 2561 |
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Thanks again for the compliments, this one is pretty old, I posted it somewhere about 4 years back, if you do a search on U.S / European forum's there are all sorts of "wheels", but usually they are 'vertical drum' types for bigger/ longer lures.
Pete - No worries, hope you can find a micro motor, I have just about given all mine away. Angus- that's when I was into 'Mylar' foiling, another fad . Chris- yes, sometimes if I get a bit rough painting it on- generally there is no need to get too close to them though, as the rear end is already sealed by the epoxy left around the end when the rear hook hanger gets epoxied in, way back up the 'paint chain'. Pete |
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Darby
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Tincan, 2 options, there are always microwave motor on evilbay, various speeds available.
Otherwise wait for the local council kerbside cleanup (if they have one) check out the tip/dump/transfer station. We are about to have a clean up around here, i will be diving into any I see and will probably have some soon if you come up with a doughnut. Brad |
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Tincan
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Darby we don't have kerbside cleanups our way so might have to checkout evil bay unless I have another brain storm. Thanks.
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flyonline
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BBQ rotisserie motors are an option, though they are generally slower - I think mines about 2.5rpm.
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Darby
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I am renovating my rotator at the moment, it has a BBQ drive, C cell 3v or 240v with adaotor, not sure what it rotates at but seems to work ok
I have bought some U beaut magnets, those Super Strong Rare-Earth Neodymium thingys......those combined with some strong crocodile clamps to give the same sort of quick attach capability as Pete's jack on/off idea. Will take some pics as I redo it. Brad |
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hazmail
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Great idea Brad, I love these magnets and lately have been using them on all sorts of things--
Just bought 50x 3mm diameter models to try out. Pete |
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flyonline
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Great idea Brad!! Yet another of those 'why didn't I think of that'
I've used a local company http://www.frenergy.com.au/categories/NdFeB-Magnets/ for all my rare earth magnet needs and have found them to be very helpful and quick with the postage. |
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Screamingreel
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Came across these tools collected around 12 of them these were the more interesting ones,
Eclipse No 55 with no blade on the actual saw itself instead a hacksaw blade attached to it. U.K. Interesting adjustable wrench Made in Sweden Pocket ruler ideal for bush bashing Some of the other items I have not been able to I D yet. Regards John |
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The ruler is a masons ruler i believe . But I can't remember what that type of saw was used for specifically . Either way it is a great find . Not the slightest Idea on the wrench. May be a motorcycle lug wrench
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