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    Posted: 18 May 2011 at 1:05pm
hi guys

just wondering what lures you guys use for bream??? 
i have never targeted them on HB's before so have no idea what to use?? or what structure to look for rock bars, sand banks, gravel banks???

any help greatly appreciated...

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what ever structure really they are there, use bass lures mate, anything small, there is nothing a $3 berkley frenzy lure cant catch.
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The smallest tiny torpedo for the surface is deadly,and probably the small ecogear sx 40 I think they are the top of my head.Storm also have a great range.So if you use them as a guidline you should be able to make decisions from there.
Rock bars will always have Bream and broadwaters /shallow water with plenty of seagrass bream chase small prawns and baitfish over the flats fallen timber leading edge or downstream will also harbour them,my favourite is on the flood tide up against overhanging mangroves or any tree for that matter hope this help regards Gary
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NICK!!!!! Confused Gawd where do you start...... Anything up to 60mm long, profile depends on where the fish are, up the canals, slim and discreet, out on the flats, and up the backwaters of rivers, fat & noisy works well .
Depending on the time of day, surface or just under in low light periods, Mid depth in dirty water & down deep during the brighter parts of the day in clear water.
Of course that's just hard body lures, when you start with Blades & Jigs...whatever works on the day.
In softies, I like old school minnow grubs like Slider 1 1/2" & 2", and if all else fails fall back to Gulp Minnows, Shrimp and Sandworms if I feel like baitfishing.

Bream can be the most annoying or the most exhilarating quarry, all depends on their mood.

Any fishy looking water will hold Bream, I can only think of one place I haven't caught them...Upstream of the first dam wall on a river. But for sure try rock walls, gravel beds, rockbars and under over hanging trees, Bream prefer a sticky snag rather than a single log, and don't discount the smallest hollow in a bank if there is grass around it.

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Brad you are spot on with your advice, the lures that I like are little surface fizzers and a cheapy a Kakoda Sprog $4--- $5 at the big department stores, they work very well in any colourThumbs Up and blades in the deeper stuffSmile
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Speaking of bream. Came across one the other day black and white photo 6lbs something  CLEANED forget the ozs
They referred to a  recorded one around I think 1916  Over 7lbs plus not cleaned.
 
Can you still catch them around that size  . What is a good average size bream caught today. 
 
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i think there was a picture of a 8 pounder in one of  the gregorys fishing maps books in the early seventies anybody got one?.that 7lb bream would just about pull your arm off i recon john!
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Biggest Yellowfin (Northern) Bream I have heard of was 2.3kg caught down Cabarita way. We usually get most bream in Moreton Bay up to the 800g mark and rarely exceed 1.2kg, probably due to the prolific netting. From guys that fish further south, the Black bream of southern parts are HUGE...in Tassie they reckon 1kg fish are babies LOL

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acanthropagus australis... Australian record Yellowfin Bream 4.445kg.
Acanthopagrus butcheri .....Aust record: 3.45kg

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They say that they age slowly  so a seven lb fish must be a fair age.
 
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hey guys
Ive got to say you guys like to fish small for bream, having fished bream on lures for about 20 years and tournaments for about nine years ive caught Bream on a lot of different lures in a lot of different situations. What i will tell you are the ones ive earnt the most cash on and the ones ive caught my biggest on!.
 
Ok for my no.1 top hard body diver (rec and tourn) its definatley the Bill Norman Deep tiny n i have weighed plenty of fish on these over the years. My first ABT tourny in the Hawkesbury i actually came 8th and caught all my fish on a Travers Powell in Rainbow trout (thanks Mr Powell), in the last few years though i would say that i have caught my biggest on a Jackal tiny fry 1.43kg closely followed by a halco 68 scorpion shallow 1.39kg(great round rocks and racks).
 
Now for plastics the 1 i will always put out is a Berkley 3" minnow grub (definatley the lure i have made the most money on by far, and won my first Abt event on!)its a good numbers and big fish lure(1.46kg  best),  i do still love the powerbait 3" minnows and my fav upgrader plastic is always the gulp  5" jerkbait. (biggest bream stopped so far 1.67kg)
 
Surface luring bream is definatley my fav way of catchng Bream and my top lure would be a jackal water moccasin 75mm but i also love throwin an old 100mm berkley frenzy for the big ones (best 1.29kg) antoher good one is 65mm sammy.
 
Blades i like the ecogear zx both sizes and the river to sea glassies.
 
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thanx for all your excellent info guys, it is greatly appreciated..... just got back from brissy and had no internet.... 

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Originally posted by Glennh Glennh wrote:

Ok for my no.1 top hard body diver (rec and tourn) its definatley the Bill Norman Deep tiny n i have weighed plenty of fish on these over the years. My first ABT tourny in the Hawkesbury i actually came 8th and caught all my fish on a Travers Powell in Rainbow trout (thanks Mr Powell), in the last few years though i would say that i have caught my biggest on a Jackal tiny fry 1.43kg closely followed by a halco 68 scorpion shallow 1.39kg(great round rocks and racks). 
Cheeers Glenn.
Bushy loves the little "Trout" lure in Rainbow trout colour for Bream.  Was it the Trout or Micro Digger that you caught those bream on?  Hopefully, you didn't give up on them after an eigth positionWink.
 
Micro Digger on the left and Trout on the right.  Rainbow Trout colour in the middle.
 
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Hey Travers
consider those rainbow trout gone mate ill be at maitland at 9!!
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oh yeah it was the trout!! nah still throw it hesitantly cause i havent backed it up with a spare but ill have that sorted in a week!! then ill retire the old one to the man cave!!
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OK whats ya fav bream lure this time of year boys???????????regards bobWink
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Grab one of Powelly's the ones on the top left white with the black stripes entice a lot of Bream ;)
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the biggest i got from the Bribie passage 1.86kg most were 600-800gr
wish they grew bigger as they pull bloody hard at that size
 
the lads have given lotsa info on lure models, just be quiet and try a bit shallower from where you are getting your flatty from
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About 40yrs ago when the Bass fishing got quiet in the cooler months, we used similar techniques in the estuaries. Bream were our most prolific catches with Flathead and Trevally as a nice bycatch! My favourite was definitely  the Shakespeare Little "S" but the small Flopys were excellent as well. You'll hafta excuse the "bag" photos as we used to eat our catch back then! Embarrassed 
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BREAM on jigs IAN & they say its a style of fishing Winknice bream mateClapClapClapregards bob
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For divers I think it is very important to either suspend or slowly sink and keep it between 30-60mm skinny minnow style on the longer side or chubby style on the shorter. For the surface 45-80mm they do take whopping surface lures and the tail of the lure should hang below the surface to help the hook up rate.
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Slightly different to poolie, I like suspending to very slow rising bouyancy in my bream lures.
Although everything else I agree with.

Friends have been experimenting with assist hooks on their surface poppers/walkers.  I really think the assists make a good prawn imitation look even better.
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IAM a fan of the skinny minnow too i use to rap led wire around the trebles for better hook ups WinkWinkEmbarrassedregards bob
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Only ever caught one bream on a lure and it was by accident as I haven't tried for the. I was using a large gold chrome rattl'n spot on a sand bar after flathead. Caught a 42 cm bream and didn't it perform well. 
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When I started chasing Bream on lures (way back when the lights were lit by gas Wink well that's what the young 'uns reckon...it was only 1989) We would fish Rapala floating and countdown 5cm minnows mainly, sometimes down sizing to the 3cm if the fish were picky. Then we moved on to McGrath minnows and Attacks as they became more available but always liked the Rapalas when times got tough.
Did the BREAM tournament scene, went through the Rebel Craw craze, the 50mm T tail soft plastic craze, the Gulp craze and managed to get out before the Blade frenzy really took over.
I still use 1 1/2" and cut down 3" Slider Grubs for soft plastic work, and Rapala 5cm minnows for pontoon work, but have upsized my open water lures to lures more suited for Bass..chunky minnows, 70mm surface poppers and walk baits.
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I think it all depends on the time of the year. When its warm and the fish are on top you have to use a popper, the small Eco prawn and cicada patterns are good choices. Generally I agree with the others who have said a small lure with near neutral buoyancy - the Bennett/Attack minnows, gold Predatek Min Mins and the Halco scorpions with the plastic clip are my favourite hard bodies. When its cool and the fish are down deep you have to get right down to them. That means blades and soft plastics worked along the bottom. Regards, Ken.
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WHAT about when the bream are activelly feeding on top of oyster leases?????????TongueTongueShockedShocked
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When they are over the top of the oyster leases is the time when the fly really comes to the fore. Unlike a lure you don't need to retrieve a fly right back to the boat, you can just keep working it through the danger zone. Regards, Ken.
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Bob, that's when you need something like a small pencil shape walking lure or a slim wake bait, something just to make a little noise that won't spook em, but enough to excite them.

An unweighted soft plastic T tail worm (Atomic/Slider etc) rigged weedless is also worth lobbing in there close to the rack/top edge with small chance of snagging.

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I give away the hardbodies when targeting Bream particularly when fishing racks. Plastics are much easier on the wallet to lose.
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SWEET the fly sound the go to put a bit of wood on them & brad ive only used squidgie bugs unwieghted on the sandflst  4 whitting so they may work also Big smileBig smileBig smileTongueregards bob
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